DLN exchange on Gambling

The Following is an exchange on the DLN blog following the latest Guardians article. There is some back and forth about gambling that we thought you might find interesting. As with anything we post, especially from other blogs we are not endorsing any of the following opinions or stated facts, just bringing this conversation to your attention.

Guardians Gambling wrote on Dec 17, 2008 9:38 AM:
" Im sorry to see this resort come if it does get developed. i think it stinks. but i disagree with the guardians tactics. the supervisors have done the best they can to limit this development and protect our resources. there is only so much that can be done by law. this ordinance contains leeds certification, audubon certification severly limits density to the housing (aprox 275) and hotel rooms (approx 190). in addition the supervisors have stood firm that they will make as a condition that gambling must be forever taken off the table. now if the guardians win there zoning challenge and greenfield comes back without the PCCC and with a vengence you will see a 1000 hotel units and gambling. and 600 homes. Nothing will stop him then. the only conditional use he will need then is the golf course portion. he cant be stopped on that he has more than enough land and he will be in no mood to take gambling off the table. gaurdians, thanks for the gamble, and thanks, maybe, for the casino. "

Casino hotel golf wrote on Dec 17, 2008 12:17 PM:
" The likelihood of any of this happening in the near future is slim to none.In case you missed it, Trump Resorts missed interest payments on the loans for its casinos. That business is in a slump. Ask any hotel owner how business has been lately. Also in the crapper. The golf course business is as bad or worse.Anybody who thinks these businesses, which rely on discretionary spending are coming back soon had better pick up a copy of the Financial Times. New home sales are stalled, and values are dropping. Frankly I have no clue why anybody with a brain would be thinking about building something like this now, or where they would find anybody dumb enough to invest in it. "

Gaurdians Gamble wrote on Dec 17, 2008 1:05 PM:
" the hard economic times for housing etc is exactly why greenfield might turn to gambling financers who see a cheap place to throw slots. look around gambling is expanding in PA. they even tryed to get it into historic gettysburg. when he cant sell houses he will slam hotels in and gambling and nothing outside of the PCCC can stop him. the PCCC is the only thing that limits the hotel units and that will via conditional use lock out gambling forever. when we get our slots we will know who to thank. "

Crazy wrote on Dec 17, 2008 1:19 PM:
" If gambling comes to Wallace, you'll have no one to thank but the BOS and PC who are accommodating this developer. The PCCC does nothing to stop gambling!!! You can't zone against gambling. Nice try.Place blame on the right people - those who accommodated a single developer to the detriment of the citizens of Wallace Township. This is illegal. Even if Valhalla Brandywine is the best we could get, the process by which we find ourselves here is wrong and tainted. Government needs to be held accountable to the people as do the individuals responsible for this. "

Gaurdians Gamble wrote on Dec 17, 2008 2:46 PM:
" the PCCC does not zone against gambling but as a part of the conditional use proceding the supervisors have made it clear and so has mr. greenfield that they will deed restrict the property with the township and 3rd partys which will lock out gambling forever. if the PCCC is overturned then the next conditional use would only be for use on the golf course section of the property so their will be no leverage and no incentive for greenfield to give up such rights on the industrial portion of the property. "